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November 14, 2024 Grantham School Board Meeting

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okay all right you call the meeting to order at 6:31 p.m. again can I ask a question can I supposed to record to the cloud or computer I think the class okay perfect thank you because it goes to India it goes to the cloud it's like the administrator who administers the zoom okay first on the agenda is the approval of the agenda and hearing questions comments okay I would like to entertain a motion to approve the agenda so moved first from this second Jillian agenda is approved uh on the agenda first on the agenda after that is public participation hello public this is your time uh and if you would like to speak uh say your name and your address before you Choice okay um I will go I'm Brittany Pine 3 Pinehurst Drive um and I was looking at the agenda for tonight and I just wanted to come and just share some thoughts that I have about 1 of the potential new policies that you all are looking at last night um so the 1 specifically that I was looking at was the um tuition and non-resident or having non-resident students come to the school and this is something that has come up um for the board previously and so I know there some folks on the board kind have some of that history but I wanted to just share some of my additional thoughts because this leads into for me 1 of the reasons that I chose to be on the school board um and this is an issue that is really tricky for me because if left like totally up to my own devices my own where I come at it personally from like my own educational lens and my own kind of moral philosophy I think having a policy in place where teachers or other people could tuition students into the school is a great idea and I see like no downside to it but knowing some of the things that are happening kind of locally and politically in the state I think it's important for there to be some additional considerations there things that for me over like my own personal feelings on it and have in the past what I've been part of that conversation um so the this I and I'm sure some of the folks that are still on the board can speak to this but this was 1 of the impetus is for us to look at the demographic study that the board undertook a few years ago if you sort of Peel back a layer of why that doing that demographic study came in front of the board 1 of the major reasons for that was because we have some very close Neighbors in the area who would like GBS to be 1 of their school choice schools specifically broaden um and at the time looking at the demographics and what space was available in the school as 1 of the ways that we can address that question from Freud and when I was on the board I didn't feel like I could speak sort of as openly about that issue as I do now um I think some of the people who work within the educational community in kyuden are trying dismantle public education and 1 of the ways that they feel that they can do that is through these sorts of tuition agreements and choice arrangements and what happens is not that I think that a small school like TVs would be put into this anytime soon but 1 of the things that can happen is school districts can come become reliant on that tuition money coming in and then those districts pull it and it that creates an additional tax burden onto a town it's what's have its 1 of the things that's happening in Newport right now so Newport had some of their school the tuition money from school choice get pulled from them and they are having a really really hard time it is not the full story of what's happening in Newport but it's 1 of the considerations and so when the question came to the Grantham School Board about would we be 1 of the receiving districts for school choice specifically from cuden 1 of the ways that we were able to say no to that immediately was that there was no policy so the board said could could flat out say without with very little drama or deliberation that's not something that we can do at this time because we don't have a policy in place to make that happen and so it was a very clear very easy very non political answer for the board to give and and then we followed up on that by saying but we'll undertake a demographic study and look at is this something that would be feasible in the future um given you know what it looks like the community growth is going to be what we have space in the school all of those things um but peeling back those layers a little bit to look at where did that requests come from and that was 1 of my first years on the board was when we saw we had a couple times that some folks from um the current and District came in to meetings for you know a variety of reasons and just having been at some other meetings and some other events in the state with some of those same people I know that those uh motivations aren't always altruistic and aren't always uh given as freely is you might hope that they would be so I don't think I I don't think that that's something that the District of the board needs to fear short term for the school but I just think as you look at that policy it's important to sort of have and I'm willing because I'm not serving on the board right now I'm willing to be the 1 that says I think there are people working in the state right now to use school choice and tuition agreements like this at for in districts to undermine public education um and I think that while there are in my heart I want their to only be like the benefits to opening up the school to more people I also know that there's this sort of like other thing happening right now and um if the board chooses to go forward with a policy relating to that um I would just hope that there's a lot of careful consideration to what the language looks like in that policy because I also there's the the most Dev part of my mind wonders if there are people in the state who have their eye on our district because we are doing a great job and have you know 1 Awards and I I wonder if there are people that are like waiting for that that door to crack open um and so I think there's a lot of like I said I think there's a lot of really good benefits to a policy like that and it could really serve the district well in terms of all kinds of things um but I also know that there are factors that hopefully fingers crossed it never came would come to be in a school our size but I also look at like I said things that are happening in other districts that are having that school choice money pulled from them um as well as having influence having those um sending districts come in and look for influence over their governing bodies so that's all I wanted to share today with you guys and thank you all you know for what you're doing and just really continue appreciate it so much so thank you and I will probably sneak out because there's family traditional uh school board meeting mac and cheese that has to be made at home I used to make it okay just Brenda okay so I wanted I asked Rodney to be here with us tonight this is Rodney Pace may not public so not anymore not anymore we see you um but it has to become so we off to you and you can lay eyes on him and uh you hit the ground running that's for sure yeah so glad to hear you're welcome any questions wrote a great little hello report you're digging in I'm pretty much all the back to my neck it's all good though so Making Waves awesome thing the world to have you thanks exciting so I think you can go now I told you it'd be quick all right but you can stay if you want yeah totally but you're not pressured no seriously given the opportunity thank you it's really nice to meet you thank you this is okay well we don't have school board leaders on which is next on the agenda so that's okay life happens nope that's totally okay it's a busy time of year November slipping away okay okay so the next on the agenda is we'll start with a budget update from Lisa and where it's in progress um we've got 1 1 more meeting yep um and uh we'll will be uh will be ready to to to bring something to you in December um I we've been talking about sort of how you know what that will look like and how we'll kind of roll it out to you folks um and so we're Brenda and Meredith and or putting something together I'm not a big slideshow person but I like to use slides just to organize my thoughts so there may be some things that look like it's a slideshow but it'll be probably in paper format um and it may be somewhat different from what you've seen in the past I'm trying not to stray too far from what you did but I'm trying to to also make it a little um a little less cumbersome and maybe just a I don't know maybe just a little bit easier um but if it's not easier just you know your feedback is obviously going to be important um but yeah but we're looking forward to next next meeting it's come together well and always ask questions if you there's any anything that you know right can you remind me uh so you guys are going to present in December and then we have a meeting in January before we have to do the budget Forum with the community yes and the budget forms in February and then needs more this way you'll get the overall we could do something and so if you guys have recommendations on how you want to smooth work for the January meeting then we'll that good January so we'd have to sort of agree on what we want it to be yeah yeah and before it was all split out over like 4 yeah certain items and so it made a lot of sense to maybe consolidate and see how that worked for us so that we had bigger picture and that's exactly the point I think you know my my strategy is here's the big picture you know here are the budget drivers write the things that we can't control whether they're moving our budget up or down um because there is actually a negative budget driver this year um and you know here are the big things that we're looking at um wanting to implement bring in 5 you know whatever those may be um rather than getting bogged down in the minutiae um you know this person wants an additional ten dollars in supplies because of x y and you know not a higher level discussion um that I think is is useful um I think it's a little bit easier to look at the big picture so you'll still see all the you know the cost centers and everything you'll still have all of the information but in terms of how we roll it out to you expect sort of like the 30,000 foot view with an occasional zoom in on some specific things um I'll see how it goes great thank you guys I love presenting budgets so I its it gives me a chance to up nerd okay no no no all right wonderful nerdiness how about the mission visioning for values so I did um send an email to um to board folks um with the results of the survey I didn't you know take 1 pass that around for me um I did not um print out the survey results because I didn't want to fill more trees um made 1 copy if anyone wants to look at it I had it primarily for for reference but um overall um the survey was was positive um we had about at the time I printed this it was 52 but there were a few more responses between after my initial print of the of the after the survey overall folks thought that the mission statement um summarized well um as its supposed to do um overall it reflects what we actually do with with some not um not quite as resoundingly as you know that it's a good example of mission statement um but it's still pretty overwhelmingly positive um again is the vision a vision statement based on the definition folks generally agreed um does the vision statement reflect what we should aspire to again General agreement of graphs are pretty similar um so have to walk through there were it was all pretty similar in terms of the split out of the of the responses what was um interesting and um in that survey was some of the comments and feedback that were at the end um they were great to read and um I I have to say that um I've done a lot of surveys in my life um over the last decade and um some of the most these are some of the most thoughtful helpful constructive responses to a survey that I've seen so I you know a lot of credit to the folks who took the time to do the survey and to to provide honest and really helpful feedback um I thought it was great um so I took all of that I looked at the written feedback and I made some tweaks to what we had in our original draft um again I'm just you know I mean I'll use this term earlier tonight so now it's right in the front of my brain throwing spaghetti at the wall see what's um but I thought there were some great suggestions um 1 of them was right within the um the mission and vision at the top was to swap creative and curious instead of curious problem solvers and creative Learners it was swapped to creative problem solvers with curious Learners and I read it I'm like that makes a whole lot of sense um so I I I just put it in there for conversation and thought um and then down at the bottom there were some suggestions on some additional words um or wording um with particularly around the respect core value um and then just uh uh what you can call the scribers change but instead of having a comma after education and then never suddenly for complacency and never settling for consistency needs better so I would submit those to you as a as proposed revisions if you're interested if you're not that's totally fine I just um again just trying to be a little proactive um and move things forward so I'll stop talking I definitely like the creative curious switch I don't know why but it works that's good yeah I like it yeah I agree I'm afraid of curious and I think I like that you pulled in this commentary from the survey in the in there and in the respect period And I I like it just as much as I liked it before so I don't have any I think it's great yeah I don't see anything that I'm overly concerned about or wish was the same I don't mind the number I know we had seen never settling for complacency before I always try that with these aspirational statements to lip something that has the word never or not into something positive but I couldn't come up with it yeah because like saying never I don't know it's very I agree with the sentiment but it's price but without so we're complacency room that's good it's almost like I don't even want to say the word complacency right like that is that was in the comments no yeah it's I don't know having done so much like marketing Communications I try to any if I'm trying to say something that is a technically don't don't statement I try to flip it positively behind stuck with this 1 and I'm not saying it has to I just like generally speaking like it to be um like a pro and not a it's the same way we need to take a vote right you make a vote in the affirmative and we don't want you so I don't I don't know how long we want to spend on that but I I would rather just take that whole piece out there um licensee part I just wouldn't even put and never settling for completely I would just end it and all aspects of it you my reasoning is you know sometimes it's okay to be complacent and and making that seemed like it's okay for people to take breaks you know what I mean and and feel some stability and and there's times to grow and so I don't know it just seems a little harsh right because the opposite of what we're talking about is like never at all I think that's why I was struggling or like you're all like always striving or what's the opposite of being complacent it just felt like that was also a little of a like a negative in my mind so I was like oh I don't know how to flip this I just I think about like kids these days how hard they're pushed and so when I when I see statements like never settling for complacency and education it just makes me feel a little uneasy like can we let our kids be complacent sometimes and and I know this isn't just about kids but like we're thinking about our kids so I would just make that piece but that's nice I'm okay if we want to get you I just my decision I think by taking it out it keeps statement as it right without causing like any negative attention to it I think because you have the heading of continuous Improvement for that value I don't I don't think you lose anything by thinking about the last 3 years right sort of already there so I think I can support you in that phrase and then and it is kind of an outlier when you read all the other ones that way so it it is the 1 that's an outlier and like I said somebody called it out in the comments as well so and it's a nice final statement without it meaning like for growth and excellence and all aspects of Education boom yeah it's positive you should have punctuated all thing you're saying that's yep I know that's Preston changed her you should statement on your pencils report that matters doesn't it match this I also 1 is getting closer to this yeah yeah oh my God that's on the admitting super okay um so with the board uh like to entertain a motion to accept the Mission Vision core values as rehearsed because then I can start getting stuff printed and update some of the stuff we have hanging up and they're gonna print all this on the T-shirt get it on the website on the website right yeah yes and thank you Lisa and I will entertain a motion to accept the agenda the new draft Mission Vision and the first from Denise second we take out that last brief second from Jerry as amended all in favor say I any opposed yay you guys did all the heavy lifting I just guided you along the way thank you uh Jerry meeting update please and thank you not something hold on very very friendly went to the area meeting because neither of these on our I could do it um it was a really nice meeting that was nice to see Sydney uh need some other folks from the other districts um uh there was I have the agenda my notes from it but it was uh it was a brief meeting um we around they talked about it was approval of minutes from the last meeting I think or maybe that got changed because nobody was there uh another just some general like project updates from all biggest things that were notable or interesting um uh there are 2 initiatives happening in Plainfield right now 1 is that they are cities of superintendent for both Landfield and Coors and they're talking about the feasibility of a Cooperative District where they sort of combined but they sort of don't uh and they've talked about it before I guess and their history but there's a serious discussion happening right now and there's some conversation about what that would mean and uh 1 of the things that came up was that Cornish has stated that even if they do that they very much are committed to being a school choice town and do not want to be a part of the area agreement and Plainfield very much wants to maintain participation in the area agreement and is committed to that um more interesting is that 85% of Cornish kids go to lead for high school anyway so yes but they both softly are committed to being a school they're School um the other big thing that I noted and there was a bunch of other little details and conversation that happened but um there is a proposal on the table to invite a speaker to come in that would be sort of a co-sponsor by all 3 districts from an organization called Sea Coast outright that talks about um certain topics uh like lgbtq topics and education and there was consensus amongst those that were there to um proceed to schedule a virtual Zoom based event um sometime next week for adults and parents or kids uh it would be for adult I mean for anybody but uh it would be for adults parents teachers community members um more as a less of like a school assembly more of a community thing so that was the big interesting thing um the next meeting is February 25th at 6 pm at Lebanon Middle School so I will be there to come and I'm I need a date company me I might come again just because uh when flame field was the host school they learn that you're welcome to go there I love it so you explain the no they have this whole year so they're the chocolate milk will be there every year you're on so you're on it which way is it the last Tuesday Cherry did you say the zoom type meeting was proposed for this month they were thinking I was thinking yeah hope you have a next month if you're meeting again in February and the other interesting aside that doesn't have anything to do with us but um field in Cornish uh Delta joked about that they are trying to figure out what they would call that District would it be the plainish district where the horn field uh are talking about creating preschool and uh if they do that they could use some existing space to 1 of the schools in Plainfield I think and they potentially could make a combined middle school and the other school so like they're trying to figure out how to do things even if they don't do the coop District wow we got a lot going on there right we're I thought that was funny okay I would love to be like hi I'm the superintendent of the cornfield then you get comments like Children of the Corn yeah they have some great school shirts right okay a little less fun than that but actually um health insurance update yeah I think in the last meeting we talked about um the the the Health Trust has changed its model so instead of giving us a guaranteed maximum rate in the fall and giving us their actual rate in the spring they tell us in the fall what our actual rate is going to be so they told us our actual rate for next year 15.8% um so not do my commentary on that um but they also notified us that um there may be some changes that have to happen to health insurance uh plans so um that affects everybody um it's also you know affects people that are in the collective bargaining agreement but we have employees that are not in the collective bargaining agreement who take health insurance as well um so uh it's something that the negotiations team will um kind of deal with on that side and I think once that is kind of you know look at it across the district but um just wanted to give you a heads up that um that's out there that's probably gonna be some changes to plans um hopefully nothing too drastic but think that would help you know got you process for you well it it will make any difference in our budgeting process probably because there's not possibly it needs to be had with any of the other plan options so but you won't be guessing what right it's good to have it now yeah so we have the actual so if we stay if we could stay with our current plan it's just 15.8% more than paying this year and it looks like most of the other plan options are in the ballpark of that anyway over this year's cost so some may be a little bit less than 15.8 some might be significantly more depending on the plan um mayor this is done a nice job chasing those down and kind of coming up with some scenarios but um we'll have something soon about you know what that's going to look like for us on it's not a panic thing it's just a hey just know this is out there is it average increase that's a good question do you remember what the Statewide rate was was it in the 20s I feel like it was High um and now I am going to sound very high yeah well I wondered you know they assured you know all of the members that you know they were able to adjust their Actuarial calculations and that they feel that this is actually you know a true you know reflection of and I'm like well okay so why did it take so long to switch to doing actuals in the fall if you could do it all along like do you know what I mean I feel like so I wonder if that by doing it in the fall now numbers are going to be a little bit higher than they might have been otherwise because they're not don't have all the background stuff but that pretty far out of my wheelhouse yeah we're at the mercy yeah um I would gush for a second I've got Meredith has done a killer job looking at a million different combinations and options that we've been reviewing thanks to a  of a job yeah because it was not fun and it's very complex excuse me even even for a VA I imagine it's not super fun but it was very very well organized and involved spreadsheets she's having I'm trying not to overly yes there's some formulas it's multi has awesome thank you both a lot that's okay update in the work all right next on the agenda our policies all righty so um I did include a policy cover sheet in there um so there are 4 the we've got ADB g b c j i c h it's the same policy 1 in the the uh board book 1 in the student book and 1 in the employee book um revisions re wording for clarity and consistency with law um and it'll replace the existing policies um I can't remember what the original what the the language some language like around ecou that vaping is not updated um jka um is revisions in accordance with current law um good to get this on the books so um Kristen and a group of folks had gotten together and renewed the new requirements and made some recommendations um I was able to take that and line it up against um the School Board Association policy and so everything I think the that your group did is in here 1 of the things I think I had to pay I had to pull out um because uh they weren't in a quart they didn't align with the new law but um for the most part everything that the group did is inherent might not be in the same format or the same place but it's there and then the last 1 of the other 1 didn't make it in um or on my list because I'm sorry we have I'm being distracted right now okay we have jfab and then yeah the so jab oh it's right there um so Kristen I had a conversation Kristen is you know is working on her her doctorate and 1 of the things she's been looking and studying is teacher Recruitment and Retention and so she um asked me to take a look at our policy and consider um whether or not uh admitting having a policy that allows for children of employees to attend school in Granton was something that we could entertain um so I I'm you know be honest we did we actually did this in mannox so a lot of the wording that's in the policy that's in your book that's proposed in it um came from that um so uh but you already had a policy on tuition which is you know take tuition students but um but so existing policy was there I just edited it for discussion um I'm you know I'm not recommending either way at this point because I am still very new to the area and I you know pay very close attention to what Britney had to say and I totally understand that um so it really um just is to discuss and if it's something the board wants to explore again and if not that's okay too but um I thought you know Kristen presented some really good evidence around um why it could be a good Recruitment and Retention tool so I wanted to honor that and then finally the last 1 is uh use in possession of tobacco very similar to the drug-free workplace and drug-free school stuff um we'll just update existing policies to be fully compliant with current law all while wrestling who seems to really want to eat right now okay questions discussion let's do them 1 at a time I think most of them are straightforward but for the first 1 the ADB GVEC jic Brittany when I need her any questions or discussion on that and these are first reads so we don't have to do any yeah yeah seems pretty stable apply to the public when the public is here yes so even um yeah an assembly of concert yeah yep it's the school grounds covers on the school property yes and we have signed everywhere yeah I know that's what I just needed to clarify when it say when it says um like we notify is there a supervisor in writing that's coming in so you can do it via email and things right I just wanted to know sure it has it has to be on paper sealed with a wax seal hand delivered by an owl probably head wig but we'll take she you decided to strike all of this because it's just about consequences or violations so let's see which part are you on so this a lot of this is notification requirements and either it was remove I think I struck it because it was too much to try to go through and just reorder it so I just I supplant did the new draft language from nhsba rather than try to parse out this 1's there this 1's not it was just easier to strict what was there um we already have student discipline policies that apply um and we have Personnel policies that apply for any you gotcha okay consequences I'll entertain a motion to approve the first of policy ABV JB ecj first from Jillian second second from Jerry all in favor say i i c okay next is uh discussion of we need to do that for our first stream we always done it for first week so okay um next is uh Jane policy j f a b um so I will add to what well no I'll let you guys be there well no I'll get silence if you'd like um I uh I also worry about this policy from a different angle which is um and I totally understand that but I worry that any policy that we have that is essentially worded as like a case by case um judgment you know Case by case implies that there are going to be people making a decision about each individual circumstance and when that starts to happen I can think of circumstances in my memory of an employee of the district we wanted to tuition in a family member and it was really complicated and painful and it put us the board and some of the administration in positions of having to have really hard uncomfortable conversations about parenting and circumstances and so I am really frankly a little uncomfortable by at least the way this is presented to us totally again completely understanding the intent a positive intent but I also have another concern separate from Britney's that um is related to my experience here so it's part like for me a lot of policies should more often be like all in or all out like this is our lane this is where we go these are the like these are the criteria boom and you're like you qualify or you don't when we get messy um it opens us up a lot of variability which can be hard plus 1 yeah I have the same sentiments that um kind of like there was the student that I think we tuition over to sonapi or whatever that you know it's like a case by case and I think there was varying thoughts around whether that should be happening or not and I feel like you'd to do that with every single 1 of these cases and that is going to be really challenging and not necessary um and could work against us actually it could put us in a litigation I mean really like there are depending on how you know people go about it like to serve bias or you know it it just it could go in many ways hopefully not but it could um so there's risk associated with it the benefit is the Recruitment and Retention but I'm not sure we really trouble with that so I get if I can just speak to that for a minute and and I don't know about the wording but and I can't mention names but I know we have lost um staff members because this general area is expensive to live in yeah um we've lost staff members because we're in a pocket in in New Hampshire that has different vacation than other schools yes so parents who live a mile down the road different vacations and then so for those those reasons is is kind of where I was yeah but we were able to fill those positions pretty easily we were able to move people to fill 1 of them yes we were able to fill up for some some yep um but the the trends in hiring in New Hampshire are definitely changing that's that was my thought to thinking we have haven't done this in the past but seeing how education teachers and retention since Co um I think it's worth looking at things differently um well the other thing is which makes me nervous as if any of these non-residents come in with special education needs that's a total cost on our district and we've had 1 or 2 major issue has really upset our financials and and could have been really bad it wouldn't be on us it would be on the sending it would be on the resident District um even if a student is tuition to another public school it's the resident District that's responsible for their costs okay so we would Bill back for anything yes I misread that so the sending plays would take care of all costs of special education typically what happens is like I mean we would you know work with them to determine how Services would provided if they would send people to do it depending on what services were or if we would hire and we would enter in a contract with them to pay for that you know employee or whatever um because that didn't stay long yep it is indeed and I actually didn't know it until I I got hit with a bill and I'm like wait a minute Mike you you took my kid from you know my best interest tuition transfer yes but you still have to pay for special education so the best interest piece be different than an employee yes case this policy was already in place um so the red this is all gray on my screen so the only part that I changed was I added the children of non-resident non-resident District employees section um everything else was already policy right I was referring to like the special ed piece though if it's best interest or manifest education hardship that would be we would still be receiving but if we're allowing the descending District would still have to pay those special education costs special education always reverts to the resident District regardless of of placement so they would have to agree to that too yep on under those well they know they wouldn't have to agree to it um I mean if they're seeking and manifest transfer like we would you know what I mean if someone's coming to us for a manifest transfer there are already agreeing to pay all the costs because they're trying to find a place to send the child right I was thinking about the employ oh right right yeah so it would be the district yeah am I misreading this so if this is all was already in place yep except for that 1 Section but you said that it said that we did take tuition and you don't other than best interest or manifest hardship okay so it's just a third based on the only attended got it and I think in the second the piece that was added the children of non-resident District employees if you go to the second page it talks about tuition all the special on the second page of the policy keep going okay yeah that's what brand is talking about but I see sort of growth do we have left before we grow this space because I know that that's been a little bit fluctuating but growing since Co yeah and I know what I read through it you did put a cap on on the number like 3 I think um honestly the class passes themselves are big enough to absorb more kids in each classroom I wouldn't say it's the best educational situation if we go like I wouldn't want to go above 2122 right um I would also we don't have the space to add another classroom but in terms of having space in classes most classes have space and it's always and 1 of the criteria is space availability so there you know if there isn't space in that particular grade there isn't space um but there may be spaced 1 year and then the next year there's changes and you know what you're going to tell them they can't come here next year and then that's going to be the best interest case and they're going to be still come you know what I mean I just like right so review but it is messy oh you've been here for 4 years but it's really hard to like somewhere like year by year right so that's tough that's not good for a child it doesn't mean that if there were 4 um 4 requests that you wouldn't allow that for us also that was another I could see where I would as an employee if I was the fourth 1 to want that that there still is a way yeah it would be that at that point um the way the policy is is proposes that the superintendent can approve the first 3 anything beyond that would require board approval um you know we had a situation when we started this in in madno where we were at we were at our cap was Sky we were at 4 we had the to get so we the you know and the board said okay that's fine you know um so things like that we like to keep siblings together Kristen what other research like there's clearly quantifiable research around this like what else can you tell us so I can I sent I don't know if you got it I did send the board like a presentation I did in 1 of my my classes but um I don't have the numbers in front of me but basically I was researching the um the change in um the housing market what's available and the costs um I was looking at just the downward Trend in in binding employees in a school district um I was looking at that I forgot a long time ago that I didn't like I know you sent it to me over the phone or something um yeah um but then besides the data I was also looking at where we're at right so in my history which has been 16 years I've never we've never been without an employee like we've always had people knocking down our doors and we're short staffed and I it's very compelling when you have people telling you I'm not applying because I'm leaving because and it's all because mostly the demographics or not demographics but the our location and where we are and and for the people with little kids I I did it like I worked here through my whole kids and never had a a vacation with my kids but I fell in love with this place and I wasn't going to leave right but you got to get in here to fall love with it and you got to it's just yeah it's gonna get harder and harder and you you hear it everywhere in education right now and I can go down a whole education and everyone on the board knows why on vacation is different do you all we've talked about that with our business and and it's even to me now at this point of my life it seems so silly it's like 2 weeks big deal big deal that's a big deal because your kids are only once right um and and especially when they have that opportunity to go to another District because every District's looking for people now right so is the um thank you yeah the part about the the tuition or the pricing or how we would do it like is the is the compelling argument to be able to have your kids be here so that you're on the same schedule or is it that kids would be here and they wouldn't have the tuition you know what I mean is that part of the I just want yeah I guess I'm just wondering organic anecdotally what's the is the I think it's both I think it's the fact that they're here and it's you know tuition free and when that applies to the middle school and high school no it does not because there's a natural I had a comment at the bottom of the first page of the policy at the bottom where the bullets are um requests will be considered on following criteria and um I just had the question of mine saying do we hold all of our students to this standard or just no so definitely not it just because I thought you know because you think of litigation saying you know why is my student that and and not this 1 because they're applying to come on a tuition basis and not they're not they don't have a right to be here as a resident so you have the ability to set criteria that you couldn't otherwise set um yeah I certainly objective yes these criteria are very subjective it's not like an objective criteria you can be like yes or no then it's what if a staff member had a child here that's pretty neat of this criteria that could be devastating that is what we were a bit of what we were facing in my experience it's excruciating yeah that conversation with someone who is very valuable in play beloved and long term but I love there's a million words to this but I'm going to ask 1 more but I think I know the answer to um person is working here for student comes here they've been here for kindergarten through fourth grade employee leaves student will go to which is part of the retention I mean we're talking about like the positive signs but you would think it would keep a employee here equipment but it's yeah prevention it's so complicated this is the first read yeah so we can think about our conversation and come back last time yeah okay let's uh bring it for our second read next month yeah there's nothing else in the policy we said that changing it should change I think I I fixed I think there's 1 where there's a correct and like a there's correction but okay thank you thank you bye uh next policy discussion is JK AAA this is hard to read just imagining the oh my gosh um but you had said this is It's just in the corner of current lab yes really do you get a lot of questions there's a bunch of like references to other sections that I assume you need to just go once everything's Reed is that yeah I'll go ahead and I'll fix those yeah there's a lot of like C-section G and I was like G they're all numbered there's no batteries in here no I'll fix that for the second read I remember making a note of myself to fix them and then I didn't I look like you had highlighted them so that was the case I just wanted to make sure that there wasn't something I was missing nope good no go ahead you say Kyle like spreadsheets once you get into this sometimes you just can't get out of me yeah oh 1 was just I didn't like 1 area when it discussed um the prone position but that it could be temporarily well I hear like no prone know prone right but then there's 1 spot where in transitioning it says right you transition you could do it temporarily I know you're talking about and that to me it seemed like that was um up to um that all depended on um how you interpreted that yeah I was also just curious if if you feel like GBS has an adequate amount of trained yeah I actually just went through I go through the we start annually I just did it last week um with 6 other people um 6 others from know just yeah just in my my little cohort but we have 2 like 3 groups that are at different times of the year that go through and get safety character and and nobody likes it but you don't want to yeah yeah anything else about they they a physical but akaa question on the section it's under number 6 the reporting and notification yep so it's the second page of that and I have to remember why I wrote this um it says does the doe receive this report um no no okay they do not have a form they were supposed to to make a form they never have um so they're at this point in time these this will get reported we report um school safety data at the end of every school year so um right now that is the mechanism by which anything gets reported whether it's suspensions expulsions well expulsions get reported on because it's a moment thing it's a bad example but um yeah no there is no doe form number right now just giving numbers thank you yeah okay we can wait for next month to approve let's see what I do now but yeah let me see the changes and all yeah the yeah all right and uh the fourth policy and scrolling all the way back in a a b a d c g v e d j i c d prohibitions regarding use and possession of tobacco products Etc questions comments do about this because I assume it's just based on the RSA but it feels like we're constantly chasing like the next new product and I know the thing I was talking about and are these like these detectors Vinz oh Zen oh my gosh which is like another it's not tobacco it's it's a nicotine but it's a nicotine it looks like a chicklet and it comes in like around so how I know this because every single person in the fire department uses its disgusting except for you except for me I None of the actually none of women do which is great all 3 of us um but you know like the um the little round plastic containers that like breath mints come in looks like a true container of a little bit smaller and they look like little chicklets they're white and they are just nicotine packets and they  on those all day gosh and a quick glance the child has this yep and they come in all sorts of funky flavors I didn't even know what some of these things were like liquid and liquid nicotine that's what I mean like they're they're constantly the industry is coming out a few things to evade the way that the law is just chasing it so I don't think we can do anything about it but like that feels like 1 that kids could easily be like oh chai tea zins yeah thing I know about it because a buddy of mine thought it was like completely like they're not addicted and he's so addicted but I didn't have any yeah I mean technically they can use sense right it's really not in this policy it's not to back you can't you so that you can get carded for it I feel further notice it's still like a restricted when I say no say no Henry's gonna come and yeah like I don't even know how you would describe it because it's a brand name like I don't know if there's a technical term for it nicotine patch right do we want to table it the others for second reader do we take them with the others we approve the first 1 Street okay let's move on to I think the next thing is the principal's report next on the agenda is the principal report and I'm pretty sure yes it is we there was a lot that happened in the time frame between um meetings and I think I gave you a little bulleted pictorial view of everything or lots of stuff that's happening at Grant and Village School um I want to share that today I actually went to a conference it was so exciting really good and I got to go with Christine and Audra from Plainfield and Karen from corner show is a nice not only conference but collegial time so that was really great but I yeah other than that that's great I gave you lots of information so you feel well come here yeah it took a long time to to get past all the headaches and dizzy and so scared I'm good I'm glad thank you and your Healthy woman I feel healthy at the time I know um okay next on the agenda is superintendent support um we pretty much hit everything that I had on my report with the exception of the professional development master plan you may recall that um I forget it was 1 of my first meetings might have been the meeting I was here with Dean I don't remember at any rate you approved the professional development master plan that the professional development committee worked on which is required under state law to be submitted to the Department of Ed um and it was approved so I just wanted to make sure that it was approved um they did agree job on it um it's nice to get it through on the first try all done to the committee and uh to Christine Downing for you know spearheading that hey uh next on the agenda is the consent member and questions response I would entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda if I confirm Denise all in favor say I uh next on the agenda is public participation but we have the public so uh we need a non-public tonight yes no I know you want to talk about CD I have 1 thing to talk about and that was a transportation oh right yeah so yes uh see reputation see thank you good he's good okay we will have uh should we move into non-public do I have a motion to move into non-public double first or Nancy second from Jillian the roll call on right yes uh Nancy I Lesley I Denise I Jillian scary all right we're a non public

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